Feb 20 2009

It appears our Republican representatives to the state legislature have their priorities in order>

Sell wine in grocery stores and beer in liquor stores
Revise the state constitution to outlaw abortions.
Legalize the sale of horse meat in Tennessee.
Allow weapon carrying drunks into restaurants/ bars ??? until 11PM.

This may be their priority but the state budget should be, for the sake of all citizens


It's about time

I'm all for #1!

Legalize the sale of horse

Legalize the sale of horse meat in Tennessee.

I saw this somewhere, but I didn't understand how the horse meat was to be used. Does someone know? I could probably Google this, but you know...

#2 is just garden variety

#2 is just garden variety GOP nonsense that every Republican Party hopes for.

#3 is just the brain child of the brainless Frank Niceley from Knox County - I hadn't heard anybody in Blount County supporting it.

#4 is a "solution" in search of a problem. I honestly don't care as long as conceal/carry permitholders are absolutely squeaky clean.

But #1 is a GREAT idea. Presumably this would allow us to buy wine on Sundays too.

I think they intend... eat it.

mostly for exports

But the key behind this bill could allow TN to become the only state in the US to allow a horse slaughter facility.

Don't ya get it? It is good for business man!


Simple economics really...

Obviously there is too much demand for bull%#&^, so to meet that demand they want to offer up horse%#&^.

If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away...

I'm all for #1I'm also for

I'm all for #1
I'm also for #4, I'm a permit holder and see no reason
why this should not be passed. Although i don't really
see what the time limit has to with anything.

Why the time limit

So you don't get drunk and shoot yourself in public, Plaxico.

If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away...

The proposal would maintain

The proposal would maintain a ban on people carrying handguns from drinking alcohol. It would also continue to ban on handguns at establishments that have age limits for entry.
Rep. Joe McCord, a Maryville Republican, said the intent is to allow handguns to be carried into restaurants that serve alcohol, but not into bars. He says the problem is that Tennessee does not have a legal definition of a bar.

Are the police magically going to be around to protect me and my family at 11pm? Do the bad guy's go home and to bed at 11pm? - Again, what's so special about 11pm?

It's the same logic is saying the police shouldn't work past 11:00. - Or, we should turn off our security systems at 11:00...
Sorry, but I don't get it. What happens at 11:00? Are permit holders going to turn into gangstas? But it's still better than
what we've currently got. I hope it passes.


The proposal would maintain a ban on people carrying handguns from drinking alcohol.

So anyone sitting in a bar or restaurant that serves alcohol and is not drinking is carrying a gun? Thanks for pointing that out to us.

Now the burden of serving alcohol to a person carrying a concealed weapon is placed in the hands of the bartender. Or waitress. Lovely!

How would you have it mello?

There's no burden on anyone. Drop this silly legislation and Let us carry our firearms where and when we please. When I carry, I do not drink alcohol. If I want to go to a bar with my firearm, I should be able to. Not all people who go to bars to drink alcohol, but I have the right to protect myself Bars do serve other types of beverages like water, coffee, tea, sodas, etc. The only people who benefit from out of control gun control are the legislators/politician and criminals. With that said, how do you propose it should be done mello or any other naysayer? Have one of Maryville's, Alcoa's or BC's finest stationed at every bar/restaraunt and check before we go in? Sounds a bit Big Brotherish to me.

Can't you just hear it now?

May I see your I.D.? Okay, now may I see your concealed carry permit?


Andy just to let you know Tennessee does "NOT" have a concealed carry permit. Tennesse "DOES" have a Handgun Carry Permit. Which means that with that permit the carrier can carry his or her firearm open carry meaning on his or her hip exposed to the anyone, that is if they so choose. I perfer to carry concealed as to not draw attention to anything.

"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies
would be in such keeping as our souls are now."
Thomas Jefferson

Thank you...

...for the clarification. You can tell I'm not carrying!


I wonder what the statistics are when comparing gun crimes in business's that server or sale alcohol compared those that don't?

McCord wants to close public records, fine newspapers

Speaking of GOP priorities, check out the editorial column in today's daily times: McCord's gun permit bill shoots First Amendment

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Please explain John832...

How does McCord's permit bill interfere with the First Amendment??

The First Amendment states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I think you are getting the US Constitution and the Freedom of Information Act confused.

The Tenth Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Today, the Daily Times states "Open records advocates are concerned about the constitutionality of the bill and that it could hurt efforts to monitor whether the government is issuing the permits properly." How does releasing Names, DOB, Issue Date, Expiration Date, etc help these people monitor the State of Tennessee??

Please show me in the US Constitution or Tennessee's Constitution where it states that this kind of information should be released?

I shouldn't be required to purchase a license to carry a firearm. It is not a privilege, it is a right that our forefathers granted us. BUT, I'll jump through the liberal hoops so that I can carry a firearm.

Seems to me

Seems to me that in these hard times, good Christians should be reaching for the Good Book, not the Smith & Wesson.

Oh well, what do I know.

If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away...

Good Book

No offense but as a christian i carry my bible in my left hand and my right hand free to draw my firearm. i don't think anyone breaking into my home is gonna give a rats rear if i'm a christain or not. If my family and I are in danger that's a different story.

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe." (Luke 11:21)

No permit needed

Since when do I need a carry permit to protect my home?

Personally, I don't care one way or the other about a gun carrying permit. Seems like stupid school yard gamemanship to me, but whatever floats your boat.

As for my home and the protection thereof...well that's a different story.

Let me ask though, why would "they" want to close the registry from public records?

If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away...

Home Protection

We protect our homes as we see fit.

To be truthful with you I really don't care either, It's just our right to bear arms. I've got my permit. For the State Senate to pass bills that will allow me to carry into more places is fine with me. That is the whole point to my orginal post. Sorry for getting off the point, it's been great blogging with you as well.

As far as the registry. I personally think it should be public info. however I have read on other boards were they feel that they (permit holders) could be singled out by burglars.

Online handgun permit registry (link...)

"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies
would be in such keeping as our souls are now."
Thomas Jefferson

Wally World is pushing for

Wally World is pushing for this here in TN. They have it already throughout the country. Also Kroger has a huge wine selection in thier stores.

Just think of the possibilities

Perhaps we could get a Trader Joes, if the law was changed to permit wine sales in grocery stores. That would bring good, whole food, reasonably priced.

McCord and HB1619


Now McCord is looking at taking away water pollution controls covering Concentrated Animal Feed Lots. Does Blount county need more of these or are we looking at housing the nation's only horse slaughter house in Blount County? WHAT is going on?


...evidently, McCord has an axe to grind with clean water. (link...)

Don't stop there ...

I think it's a great idea. I haven't played music in a nightclub in years so I'm not worried about dodging bullets. Why stop the NRA fetish there?

Why not allow one-shot pistol vending machines placed next to the cigarette machines in Bars? That way two drunks could settle their arguments cheaply.

Sounds like it could even be a sporting event. Heck, with the economy the way it is, drinking is up--probably in Bars as well, so we could lower the population just by legalizing shooting in Bars.

viva Evo Morales

Bar Food

Fun Dry humor is always fun to read. Too bad we couldn’t keep this blog on topic, thanks anyway.
Perhaps we could have our Blount County bars sell horse jerky as a
Late night snack. What instruments to you play? I play Guitar, harmonica, and some banjo.

"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies
would be in such keeping as our souls are now."
Thomas Jefferson

Blount County bars sell horse jerky

Great headline, I can see it now.

If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away...

Horse meat?

McCord did not get my vote last time and he certainly won't again-introducing such bone-head legislation.

Horse meat? Really?

My daughter cannot bring home her biology textbook because they do not have enough for all students, so I am SO glad to see our legislature hard at work on really, really important stuff like wine sales, guns and horse meat.

I had a discussion about

I had a discussion about slaughtering horses Friday night. We own two horses. An alternative used to be to take a sick/injured horse to the slughterhouse for dog meat, etc. I do not know this for sure, but I was told that this was outlawed so a horse owner has limited options of disposing of a horse. One is to take it to a vet to chop up (I think the UT vet school does this) or the other is to kill and bury it on their property. Burying a horse is not as easy as the pet cat. You need a large place to bury the horse and heavy equipment to dig a large hole. It was a convenient option to take the horse to the slaughterhouse for disposal...

Horse disposal

I understand your dilema there FarmerJohn, I had a very large dog once that I struggled to give a proper burial.

My back still hurts.

If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away...

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